{"id":11177,"date":"2018-04-14T22:39:53","date_gmt":"2018-04-14T20:39:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ahkhjemmeside.tk\/?page_id=11177"},"modified":"2019-09-19T09:27:48","modified_gmt":"2019-09-19T07:27:48","slug":"lantagning-og-pantsaetning","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/?page_id=11177","title":{"rendered":"L\u00e5ntagning og Pants\u00e6tning"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_3_4 3_4 fusion-three-fourth fusion-column-first\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-top:0px;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;width:74%; margin-right: 4%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><h2>L\u00e5ntagning og Pants\u00e6tning<\/h2>\n<\/div><div class=\"accordian fusion-accordian\" style=\"--awb-border-size:2px;--awb-icon-size:25px;--awb-content-font-size:15px;--awb-icon-alignment:left;--awb-hover-color:#efefef;--awb-border-color:#ffffff;--awb-background-color:#efefef;--awb-divider-color:#607d8b;--awb-divider-hover-color:#607d8b;--awb-icon-color:#2e5979;--awb-title-color:#0087ef;--awb-content-color:#333c4e;--awb-icon-box-color:#333333;--awb-toggle-hover-accent-color:#0087ef;--awb-title-font-family:&quot;Open Sans&quot;;--awb-title-font-weight:700;--awb-title-font-style:normal;--awb-title-font-size:15px;--awb-content-font-family:&quot;Open Sans&quot;;--awb-content-font-style:normal;--awb-content-font-weight:400;\"><div class=\"panel-group fusion-toggle-icon-unboxed\" id=\"accordion-11177-1\"><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-f8ab7187321db91df fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_f8ab7187321db91df\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"f8ab7187321db91df\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#f8ab7187321db91df\" href=\"#f8ab7187321db91df\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">L\u00e5ntagning mod pant i kolonihavehus.<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"f8ab7187321db91df\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_f8ab7187321db91df\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<p><strong>Hvad kan pants\u00e6ttes<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Da foreningen er en Andelhave-forening , betyder det, at medlemmerne i f\u00e6llesskab ejer grunden og det enkelte medlem lejer sin egen havelod. Jf. vedt\u00e6gterne kan der ikke optages individuelt pant i den enkelte havelod.<\/p>\n<p>Derimod ejer medlemmerne selv deres kolonihavehus\/bebyggelse og medlemmet kan dermed optage l\u00e5n med pantsat sikkerhed i bygningerne p\u00e5 den enkelte havelod.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-016222073e11370d0 fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_016222073e11370d0\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"016222073e11370d0\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#016222073e11370d0\" href=\"#016222073e11370d0\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Foreningens holdning til medlemmernes eventuelle pants\u00e6tning<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"016222073e11370d0\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_016222073e11370d0\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<p>Som udgangspunkt er medlemmernes individuelle l\u00e5neoptagelse en privatsag og foreningen afviser aktuelt ikke medlemmernes \u00f8nske om evt. at optage l\u00e5n mod pant i deres kolonihavehus.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Dog g\u00e6lder, at s\u00e5fremt medlemmet har optaget et af foreningen kautioneret kloakl\u00e5n i Merkur Bank, skal der jf. vedt\u00e6gterne \u00a74 stk 5 tinglyses sikkerhed for dette forud for evt. anden pantsat l\u00e5ntagning.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>I og med at l\u00e5neoptagelse opfattes som en privat-sag, har det ogs\u00e5 den konsekvens, at foreningen ikke er indstillet p\u00e5 at blive inddraget i bel\u00e5ningen (jf. nedenfor) ud over evt. at skulle st\u00e5 for udarbejdelsen af en vurdering (mod gebyr jf. vedt\u00e6gterne), s\u00e5fremt l\u00e5ngiver \u00f8nsker en s\u00e5dan.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-2ab7824a826a515aa fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_2ab7824a826a515aa\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"2ab7824a826a515aa\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#2ab7824a826a515aa\" href=\"#2ab7824a826a515aa\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Foreninges holdning til inddragelse i medlemmernes individuelle l\u00e5ntagning mod pant i kolonihavehus<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"2ab7824a826a515aa\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_2ab7824a826a515aa\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 1\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p>L\u00e5ngiver (fx bank) vil typisk fors\u00f8ge at sikre sit pant gennem en kombination af:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u2013 \u00a0Tinglysning af pant<br \/>\nDette er som n\u00e6vnt foreningen uvedkommende \u2013 s\u00e5fremt foreningen ikke kautionerer for et kloak-l\u00e5n<\/li>\n<li>\u2013 \u00a0Krav om panteerkl\u00e6ring underskrevet af foreningen<br \/>\nBankers panteerkl\u00e6ringer er typisk i strid med g\u00e6ldende vedt\u00e6gter og deklaration<br \/>\nS\u00e5fremt foreningen underskriver en s\u00e5dan, p\u00e5l\u00e6gges foreningen desuden administration og en \u00f8konomisk risiko.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u2013 \u00a0Krav om Transport underskrevet af foreningen<br \/>\nS\u00e5fremt foreningen underskriver en s\u00e5dan, p\u00e5l\u00e6gges foreningen administration og en \u00f8konomisk risiko.Foreningen oplever, at bank\/l\u00e5ngiver ofte fors\u00f8ger at involvere foreningen.Bestyrelsen har \u2013 som n\u00e6vnt p\u00e5 ordin\u00e6r generalforsamling 2014 og ogs\u00e5 efterf\u00f8lgende \u2013 indg\u00e5ende dr\u00f8ftet denne problemstilling \u2013 internt, med kolonihaveforbundet og med n\u00e6rliggende kolonihaveforeninger:Meldingen fra kolonihaveforbundet er, at man IKKE anbefaler at underskrive panteerkl\u00e6ringer og at man er enig i, at transporter har samme administrative krav og \u00f8konomiske risici, som panteerkl\u00e6ringer.<\/p>\n<p>Udmeldingen fra en r\u00e6kke andre haveforeninger i n\u00e6romr\u00e5det er, at man aldrig underskriver hverken panteerkl\u00e6ringer eller transporter.<\/p>\n<p>Bestyrelsen er dermed blevet bekr\u00e6ftet i den umiddelbare analyse af risikoen for foreningen (og dermed risiko for alle medlemmerne) og har derfor besluttet, at AH Kildegaarden IKKE underskriver nogen dokumenter, der kan medf\u00f8re en risiko, som foreningen\/medlemmerne kan komme til at h\u00e6fte for.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Foreningen AH Kildegaarden underskriver dermed hverken Panteerkl\u00e6ringer eller Transporter !<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 2\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p><strong>Foreningen giver IKKE generel r\u00e5dgivning omkring pants\u00e6tning, men har erfaret f\u00f8lgende:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Hvilke eventuelle muligheder har medlemmer, der overvejer l\u00e5neoptagelse mod pant ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Medlemmer, der forhandler med banker\/l\u00e5ngiver b\u00f8r g\u00f8re opm\u00e6rksom p\u00e5 vedt\u00e6gternes \u00a72 stk. 2, som delvis im\u00f8dekommer l\u00e5ngivers \u00f8nsker.<\/p>\n<p>Foreningen er bekendt med, at i hvert fald Nordea (i 2014) har givet pantsat l\u00e5n uden yderligere krav. Dette har dog kr\u00e6vet en vis indsats fra medlemmets side.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-29f934b538a491c59 fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_29f934b538a491c59\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"29f934b538a491c59\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#29f934b538a491c59\" href=\"#29f934b538a491c59\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Konsekvens af pants\u00e6tning for kommende medlemmer !<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"29f934b538a491c59\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_29f934b538a491c59\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<p>S\u00e5 snart et medlem f\u00e5r tinglyst et pant, har det den konsekvens, at der skal udstedes og tinglyses sk\u00f8de ved alle fremtidige salg, s\u00e5 l\u00e6nge det pantsatte best\u00e5r. Dette vil dermed medf\u00f8re udgifter for alle fremtidige ejere.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-132267599343d0341 fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_132267599343d0341\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"132267599343d0341\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#132267599343d0341\" href=\"#132267599343d0341\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Konsekvenser af tinglysning\/pants\u00e6tning ved salg \u2013 for K\u00f8ber og S\u00e6lger !<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"132267599343d0341\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_132267599343d0341\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<p>S\u00e5fremt der er tinglysninger b\u00f8r K\u00f8ber (det nye medlem) sikre, at salgskontrakten indeholder en passus om at salgssummen deponeres, indtil k\u00f8ber f\u00e5r udstedt anm\u00e6rkningsfrit sk\u00f8de. Dette betyder, at S\u00e6lger skal aftale s\u00e5vel deponeringskonto som mellemfinansiering med sin bank\/l\u00e5ngiver og s\u00e6lger m\u00e5 p\u00e5regne udgifter i forbindelse med dette!<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-c12f2323f05dba9ad fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_c12f2323f05dba9ad\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"c12f2323f05dba9ad\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#c12f2323f05dba9ad\" href=\"#c12f2323f05dba9ad\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Konsekvenser af tinglysning\/pants\u00e6tning ved salg \u2013 for K\u00f8ber !<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"c12f2323f05dba9ad\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_c12f2323f05dba9ad\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<p>Normalt vil en tinglysning, uanset om det v\u00e6re sig et sk\u00f8de og\/eller pants\u00e6tning, betyde, at K\u00f8ber skal have udstedt sk\u00f8de. Dette er dog n\u00e6ppe n\u00f8dvendigvis tilf\u00e6ldet, s\u00e5fremt k\u00f8ber umiddelbart efter overtagelse nedriver det eksisterende hus med henblik p\u00e5 at bygge nyt. I s\u00e5 fald kan tingbogsoplysningerne i stedet slettes.<\/p>\n<p>Ekstraomkostninger ved tinglysning\/pants\u00e6tning<\/p>\n<p>At f\u00e5 tinglyst sk\u00f8de\/pant medf\u00f8rer et gebyr til tinglysningsretten \u2013 og sker for\u00f8vrigt digitalt. Dvs man \u201dunderskriver\u201d via en PC.<\/p>\n<p>En ny tinglysning kan if\u00f8lge lov fra 1\/1-14 medf\u00f8re, at der skal udarbejdes et eRids\/GML-beskrivelse af det tinglyste. Dette kan leveres af en Landinspekt\u00f8r\/-m\u00e5ler mod betaling.<\/p>\n<p>Bestyrelsen<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-11177","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/11177","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=11177"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/11177\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ahktest.ahkildegaarden.nu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=11177"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}